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Le Corricolo DYK nom[edit]
Fight for a "European Armenia (TM)"[edit]
Hi Alex, hope you're doing well. Long time no speak. I've noticed a few IPs (operated by the same user in all likelihood, given that the IPs edit war and support each other in tandem, and also geolocate to the same country) have been keen on inserting hopelessly WP:UNDUE/WP:POV content into various Armenia-related articles.[1] Goal: push Armenia as a fully or semi-European state in infoboxes and ledes of various Armenia-related articles.[2] Seems they do not care about the fact that while the country, in the modern day, may geo-politically be considered Europe or Eurasian, geographically it is not and has never been (and will never be, unless it somehow conquers a lot of new territories, which is unlikely). A well known recurring mainly WP:FORUM-ish theme on Wikipedia that resurfaces every few months, I was wondering about your thoughts vis-a-vis this new batch? - LouisAragon (talk) 14:10, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hello @LouisAragon:, everything is fine, thanks! Yes, i too noticed that this story started again some time ago... a few days ago one of these ip had opened a thread on the talk page of Armenia, I looked at his edits and I noticed that he was edit warring on another article still on the same topic (Armenia = Europe). I pointed this out to him and he deleted the whole thread, which is of course forbidden, a sign that he didn't have a clear conscience. Now if one of these "europeans" arrives on the talk, I immediately send him back to read the archive, but it doesn't work. Either he doesn't read it, or he doesn't understand what it is written, or he understands it but doesn't care (I think the latter explanation is the most likely). Regarding the problem with the articles you showed me you should go to ANI. If one of these articles would have been on my watchlist it would have been different…. As far as the problem in general is concerned, given that it is now a historic problem, I think we should open a thread on AN, talk to the administrators and look for a solution as stable as possible. What do you think? Alex2006 (talk) 17:27, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds like a good idea. Are you willing to create a thread? I feel as if a sustainable solution can be achieved. - LouisAragon (talk) 22:10, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry to interject- but I wanted to mention that I too have been monitoring these articles closely the past few weeks. While the IP's talk page messages are getting somewhat irritating, I have noticed a persistent theme. The IP seems to be inserting text along the lines of [paraphrasing] "Armenia is in the South Caucasus region of the Caucasus spanning Eastern Europe and Western Asia". Technically (and if this was a genuine WP:GF edit), I can understand the IP may have assumed that since the Caucasus region (as a whole) is indeed the transition area between E.Euopre/W.Asia, perhaps they assumed that Armenia was transcontinental by extension? The IP doesn't seem to suggest that "Armenia is Europe", but rather, "Armenia is transcontinental". Which leads me to believe that the IP may not understand where the common definitions of Eastern Europe ends in the Caucasus. It seems all other editors monitoring (especially at Armenia) have been quick to respond to the IP and reassert Armenia's rightful geographical location in Western Asia. There isn't any doubt of Armenia's geography in Western Asia by any long-standing editors involved. Therefore, I wonder if ANI is critically necessary in this case? There doesn't seem to be any popular uprising to switch Armenia's geography to Eastern Europe, I think this is a case of a rouge IP who may not understand the accepted boundaries of the continents. Luckily, there has been no activity on these articles' the past few days and the IP has not engaged in any edit wars or blatant vandalism. Nonetheless, I am keeping a close watch on these articles, and will take action should further disturbances occur. Cheers :) Archives908 (talk) 01:45, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- @LouisAragon and Archives908: yes, I will open a thread but in June, because in the next few days I am going on holiday to a place where I will have very limited internet access. However I will let you know when I do. My suggestion of ANI came from the fact that I thought there was an edit war, but if not, all the better. In any case, ANI can't be the solution, because it always requires a lot of discussion time. Talking about discussions, in the latest discussion taking place now on the Armenia talk page, the "European" position has been refuted by another Armenian. At the beginning of this story I thought we were facing a cultural problem, i.e. that geography was taught differently in Armenia. I waited to see their sources, but virtually nothing was shown. Then, about ten years ago, I casually met three Armenian astrophysicists who had arrived for a conference in Rome, and I took the opportunity to ask them which continent their country was on. They looked at me as if I were dumb, and replied: Armenia is in Asia, where else? From then on I realised that the Armenians learn the same geography as we do, and that the problem is only 'political', so to speak. Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 08:42, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- I agree- I don't think ANI is necessary. There aren't any editors who are opposing Armenia's geographical location in Western Asia and Armenia's geopolitical alignment with Europe is already covered sufficiently. Again, I believe this to be a rogue IP that was potentially confused with where the borders of the continents converged in the South Caucasus. So far, no edit wars, no disruptive behavior or vandalism, and no POV edits on any of the aforementioned articles. Most of them are on my watchlist, so I've been keeping a close on them. Anyways, enjoy your holiday :) Archives908 (talk) 02:23, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- @LouisAragon and Archives908: yes, I will open a thread but in June, because in the next few days I am going on holiday to a place where I will have very limited internet access. However I will let you know when I do. My suggestion of ANI came from the fact that I thought there was an edit war, but if not, all the better. In any case, ANI can't be the solution, because it always requires a lot of discussion time. Talking about discussions, in the latest discussion taking place now on the Armenia talk page, the "European" position has been refuted by another Armenian. At the beginning of this story I thought we were facing a cultural problem, i.e. that geography was taught differently in Armenia. I waited to see their sources, but virtually nothing was shown. Then, about ten years ago, I casually met three Armenian astrophysicists who had arrived for a conference in Rome, and I took the opportunity to ask them which continent their country was on. They looked at me as if I were dumb, and replied: Armenia is in Asia, where else? From then on I realised that the Armenians learn the same geography as we do, and that the problem is only 'political', so to speak. Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 08:42, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry to interject- but I wanted to mention that I too have been monitoring these articles closely the past few weeks. While the IP's talk page messages are getting somewhat irritating, I have noticed a persistent theme. The IP seems to be inserting text along the lines of [paraphrasing] "Armenia is in the South Caucasus region of the Caucasus spanning Eastern Europe and Western Asia". Technically (and if this was a genuine WP:GF edit), I can understand the IP may have assumed that since the Caucasus region (as a whole) is indeed the transition area between E.Euopre/W.Asia, perhaps they assumed that Armenia was transcontinental by extension? The IP doesn't seem to suggest that "Armenia is Europe", but rather, "Armenia is transcontinental". Which leads me to believe that the IP may not understand where the common definitions of Eastern Europe ends in the Caucasus. It seems all other editors monitoring (especially at Armenia) have been quick to respond to the IP and reassert Armenia's rightful geographical location in Western Asia. There isn't any doubt of Armenia's geography in Western Asia by any long-standing editors involved. Therefore, I wonder if ANI is critically necessary in this case? There doesn't seem to be any popular uprising to switch Armenia's geography to Eastern Europe, I think this is a case of a rouge IP who may not understand the accepted boundaries of the continents. Luckily, there has been no activity on these articles' the past few days and the IP has not engaged in any edit wars or blatant vandalism. Nonetheless, I am keeping a close watch on these articles, and will take action should further disturbances occur. Cheers :) Archives908 (talk) 01:45, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds like a good idea. Are you willing to create a thread? I feel as if a sustainable solution can be achieved. - LouisAragon (talk) 22:10, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Alex2006 and @Archives908: Talking about "zealous campaigns".[3] God knows how many IPs and meat/socks have been used by now. - LouisAragon (talk) 15:24, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Le Corricolo[edit]
On 19 June 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Le Corricolo, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Alexandre Dumas's travel book Le Corricolo, published in 1843, contains one of the earliest literary accounts of Neapolitan pizza (pizza maker pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Le Corricolo. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Le Corricolo), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
-- RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Theatre of Nero[edit]
On 30 July 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Theatre of Nero, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Tone 10:31, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for creating that interesting article, Alex! Bishonen | tålk 12:08, 30 July 2023 (UTC).
- Thanks @Bishonen:, for your kind message! Actually I didn't do much: I just wrote an article to get it published on DYK, but another user thought it was interesting news, and put it in the news. So it turned out to be ineligible for DYK though... all wasted work! :-) Alex2006 (talk) 09:38, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Provatura[edit]
On 8 September 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Provatura, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that provatura cheese was mentioned in a 12th-century chronicle? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Provatura. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Provatura), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
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DYK nomination of Aiming stone[edit]
Hello! Your submission of Aiming stone at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:43, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for March 15[edit]
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DYK nomination of Cistern of Pulcheria[edit]
Hello! Your submission of Cistern of Pulcheria at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yakikaki (talk) 20:24, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Aiming stone[edit]
Hello! Your submission of Aiming stone at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 04:24, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Unfinished DYK review[edit]
Hello, apologies for the late reply in my nomination but I just wanted to remind you about your review for my DYK nomination: Template:Did you know nominations/William O. Raymond. Thanks! B3251 (talk) 00:54, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
DYK for Aiming stone[edit]
On 13 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Aiming stone, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Beşiktaş aiming stone in Istanbul (pictured) marks the spot where in 1810 Sultan Mahmud II hit an ostrich egg 735.9 metres (2,414 ft) away? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Aiming stone. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Aiming stone), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Schwede66 12:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
DYK for Cistern of Pulcheria[edit]
On 28 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cistern of Pulcheria, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Cistern of Pulcheria is one of the best-conserved Byzantine reservoirs in Istanbul? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cistern of Pulcheria. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Cistern of Pulcheria), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Great work with this article! I've added a photo I took of it. From memory, the site wasn't open to the public at the time, but my guide on a walking tour was able to get me in while it was being set up for an event. Nick-D (talk) 10:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Lycus (river of Constantinople)[edit]
Hello! Your submission of Lycus (river of Constantinople) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! InformationToKnowledge (talk) 23:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Outstanding DYK review[edit]
Hi @Alessandro57 I make the changes you asked for my nomination. Can you recheck? el.ziade (talkallam) 12:08, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Your signature.[edit]
Could you please fix your signature so it says who you are? Your signature currently reads "Alex2006", which is not you. It is Alex2006. That's really confusing. RoySmith (talk) 14:08, 21 May 2024 (UTC)